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i love that. >> romney continues to surge in battleground state polls. in florida, tampa bay times, "miami herald" poll has romney with the biggest lead in weeks. american research group poll shows romney leading narrowly in new hampshire. 50 to 46. >> the next presidential debate will be this coming tuesday on long island. then on friday, fox news learned romney plans another major policy speech. the next one on spending. trying to redouse the $16 trillion debt. so much of which he blames on president obama. for wasteful government spending. >> bret: okay, carl. may dip in later in the show. thank you. "facts and truth don't have much to do with each other." observer might add nowhere does that apply more than in politics. doug mckelway takes a look at the facts and the truth from the vice presidential debate. >> they are the facts. they are the facts. >> vice president biden use the word "fact" or "facts" 26 times. ryan used it once. neither man were total fidelity to the truth. one exchange, he suggested seep yours receive more benefit under obamacare
i love that. >> romney continues to surge in battleground state polls. in florida, tampa bay times, "miami herald" poll has romney with the biggest lead in weeks. american research group poll shows romney leading narrowly in new hampshire. 50 to 46. >> the next presidential debate will be this coming tuesday on long island. then on friday, fox news learned romney plans another major policy speech. the next one on spending. trying to redouse the $16 trillion debt. so much...
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doug schwartz runs quinnipiac universitys polling institute. >> right now, pew has romney up by three points. gallup has obama up by five points in their seven-day track, but since the debate they have obama up by just three points. >> reporter: or how about old friend ray fair, an economist we've been visiting every four years since the george h.w. bush administration. he's got an economic model. >> so right at this moment, its 49.5% of the two-party vote for obama. >> reporter: so the polls and models call it a toss-up. but curiously, the betting public tells a very different story. online betting prediction markets, like ireland's intrade, which takes bets from americans, and england's betfair, which doesnt, have made obama the strong favorite for months. the lone domestic and entirely legal betting haven, the iowa electronic markets at the university of iowa. ever frugal, we asked hari srinivasan, our man in the midwest-- at least last week-- re iowa electronic market?is he entire iowa electronic market? >> thiss rvk iser er room right here. he eeirnivasan: nt tse prediction marke
doug schwartz runs quinnipiac universitys polling institute. >> right now, pew has romney up by three points. gallup has obama up by five points in their seven-day track, but since the debate they have obama up by just three points. >> reporter: or how about old friend ray fair, an economist we've been visiting every four years since the george h.w. bush administration. he's got an economic model. >> so right at this moment, its 49.5% of the two-party vote for obama. >>...
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today's national gallup poll of likely voters shows governor romney with a slender lead of one point over the president. of course, that's within the lly a tie.error so it's essentially a tie. tonight's debate is at centre college in danville, kentucky. nancy cordes and jan crawford danville. first we'll go to nancy, covering the vice president's campaign. nancy. >> reporter: scott the vice president arrived here in kentucky today after several days of intense preparation in his home state of delaware and several people there with him veld us the president's weak performance in his own debate didn't so much change the ndrategy as raise the stakes and they say the vice president is very well aware he needs to have a better night than the president did. tu recall when the president was preparing for his own debate, he called it a drag. clear thacampaign is making it very clear that the vice president enjoyed his preparation, enjoys debating. they even released the vice nedsident and what we learned one of six full-scale 90 minute hey'reebates. and, scott, here's why they're t isful. th
today's national gallup poll of likely voters shows governor romney with a slender lead of one point over the president. of course, that's within the lly a tie.error so it's essentially a tie. tonight's debate is at centre college in danville, kentucky. nancy cordes and jan crawford danville. first we'll go to nancy, covering the vice president's campaign. nancy. >> reporter: scott the vice president arrived here in kentucky today after several days of intense preparation in his home...
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romney watching from his hotel in north carolina. the president watched returning from florida on air force one and made sure to congratulate his number two when he arrived home. >> i thought joe biden was terrif terrific tonight. i could not be more proud. i thought he made a strong case. >> today the campaigning continues. biden is in wisconsin and mitt romney is virginia before heading to ohio to meet up with paul ryan. let's get the reactions from both sides. cheering vice president biden, the happy warrior after his aggressive performance one that republicans are describing as condescending and disrespectful. look how the new york post put it. the contrast wasn't just between biden and ryan but between biden and president obama. the cover, vote for joe, vp shows obama how to debate. inside, smirky biden upstages his boss. with me, former ohio governor and former democratic ted strickland. did he show up the boss? >> no, but he showed up paul ryan and that's what i think is was important. he showed a lot of heart. joe biden in my
romney watching from his hotel in north carolina. the president watched returning from florida on air force one and made sure to congratulate his number two when he arrived home. >> i thought joe biden was terrif terrific tonight. i could not be more proud. i thought he made a strong case. >> today the campaigning continues. biden is in wisconsin and mitt romney is virginia before heading to ohio to meet up with paul ryan. let's get the reactions from both sides. cheering vice...
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. >> the poll numbers for romney and ryan soaring after the first presidential debate. democrats openly counting on joe biden tonight to stop that republican momentum. >> osama bin laden is dead and general motors is arrive. >> the 2012 vice presidential debate starts right now. >>> happy debate night, everybody. the best television series of 2011 was the republican primary debates. there were 1 million of them. they played to huge audiences week after week and never disappointed. now it is october 2012 and the most compelling thing on television anywhere in the country is once again the debates. only now there are only two candidates at a time and the stakes are way higher. i'm rachel maddow. here on our msnbc headquarters in new york. i'm joined by ed schultz, reverend al sharpton, chris hayes, steve schmidt. lawrence o'donnell is our man in the spin room tonight. the one and only chris matthews is at centre college in danville, kentucky, the site of tonight's debate. chris, is this unusually high stakes for a vice presidential debate? >> well, it's great being with y
. >> the poll numbers for romney and ryan soaring after the first presidential debate. democrats openly counting on joe biden tonight to stop that republican momentum. >> osama bin laden is dead and general motors is arrive. >> the 2012 vice presidential debate starts right now. >>> happy debate night, everybody. the best television series of 2011 was the republican primary debates. there were 1 million of them. they played to huge audiences week after week and never...
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the polls for the "real clear politics" average, you see 40% to the president, 44 to mitt romney, thereabouts. joining us now bill ballinger the edda toefr inside michigan politics. we last talked with him about three weeks ago. bill, three weeks ago it looks like mitt romney cut the lead that the president had according to the "real clear politics" average in half. it was a pretty sizable swing inside that state. does the momentum feel like it's moving towards romney a little bit? >> yes it does. no question romney has improved his position from three weeks ago, the debate was really the single factor that did it. neither candidate has personally visited the state, and i really think for romney to win the state or so many very close he has to make a personal appearance here some time between now and november 6th. so far he's only sent in surrogates, paul ryan was here earlier in the week, ann romney is here today but romney himself has not shown up since last summer. jenna: sometimes when pundits talk about michigan it's sort of like a one tphoerpbgs there is the auto industry there, the aut
the polls for the "real clear politics" average, you see 40% to the president, 44 to mitt romney, thereabouts. joining us now bill ballinger the edda toefr inside michigan politics. we last talked with him about three weeks ago. bill, three weeks ago it looks like mitt romney cut the lead that the president had according to the "real clear politics" average in half. it was a pretty sizable swing inside that state. does the momentum feel like it's moving towards romney a...
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the latest arg poll of likely voters shows mitt romney at 49% and president obama at 46%. that's in florida right now. that's within the sampling error. meanwhile, with just 25 days to go before election day there are some serious concerns about a republican financed voter registration effort in the state. cnn's crime and justice correspondent joe johns is joining us now with the latest on a criminal investigation making waves right here in washington. joe, what's going on? >> wolf, he is a veteran gop operative who just doesn't seem to go away. a few weeks agoaway. a few weeks ago, a wave of bad publicity hit the waves. he was disavowed by the republican national committee. tonight, some democrats that criticize his tactics say they're worried he may still be operating in several key battleground states under a different company name. >> it all started with nathan sprule. they came under fire for providing false information at the supervisor of election office. they responded by throwing him under the bus even though he denies wrong doing. by that time the republican part
the latest arg poll of likely voters shows mitt romney at 49% and president obama at 46%. that's in florida right now. that's within the sampling error. meanwhile, with just 25 days to go before election day there are some serious concerns about a republican financed voter registration effort in the state. cnn's crime and justice correspondent joe johns is joining us now with the latest on a criminal investigation making waves right here in washington. joe, what's going on? >> wolf, he is...
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today that is usually a pretty good poll that shows romney with a very large lead in florida, i don't think he has that but they need to find a way so that going into the last two weeks with i the debates they hope helping them more they have got one or two or three paths to get to 27 at this, they are not if you talk to honest republicans they are not overwhelmingly confident that, you know, for months they said we would rather be us than them, i don't think you heard too many honest republicans saying that now but he think they have a chance if the next debate goes well, on the other side, their strategy is, their premise is we have got to lead, the electorial college is still very much tilting toward them and that they believe that their ground game is vastly enter superior, and early voting and the mechanics of turning people out on voting day they think are significantly better and i think based on what i have been able to learn that is not a crazy position to have and they want to go back to doing what they have done so well and i think you will see subterranean messaging on thi
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and the post debate polls, which is where romney really made strides last week. on friday after a full 24 hours of post debate spin right? >> stephanie: right. >> the post debate talk has been pretty rough on ryan but the president is the president. >> stephanie: and we have been saying, i do think we send to be a little bit more honest. we came in and said the president has a bad night. whereas they are just spinning. i'm reading some poll analysis here. it says the most relevant poll comes from cbs news and it says it is 51% compared to 31% for ryan. i mean that was an ass kicking. [ laughter ] >> no doubt. >> stephanie: so you think the townhall will favor the president on tuesday. >> yes, and the fact that he went through this already once. it didn't work his way, and now he has to listen to advise to be more aggressive. he has done it in the past and it has worked for him in the past. so to be honest, i wasn't worried last week, so to say i'm not worried next week i could be wrong again. but obama does do well when his back is up against the wall. obama is s
and the post debate polls, which is where romney really made strides last week. on friday after a full 24 hours of post debate spin right? >> stephanie: right. >> the post debate talk has been pretty rough on ryan but the president is the president. >> stephanie: and we have been saying, i do think we send to be a little bit more honest. we came in and said the president has a bad night. whereas they are just spinning. i'm reading some poll analysis here. it says the most...
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of the last week, for the romney campaign? >> i think that that debate gave democrats a lot to be very excited about, very enthusiastic about. i think it showed undecided voters a very clear contrast between how the president wants to keep growing this economy, keep unemployment going down and how mitt romney's policies would favor the wealthy over the middle class. yes i do think that this debate was very helpful. overall will it be as meaningful as one of the presidential debates? it's hard to say right now. for last night and for this mome moment, i think that there's a lot for us on the democratic side to be very happy about. >> lot of aggressiveness out of joe biden and there are many people like ben smith and chris zalizza from the washington post, smiling was unsettling, laughing wag losing the debate from joe biden's side. some people have said -- i've heard this a couple of times, that some of this aggressiveness was a way to sort of navigate what the president should do in the next presidential debate. kind of push t
of the last week, for the romney campaign? >> i think that that debate gave democrats a lot to be very excited about, very enthusiastic about. i think it showed undecided voters a very clear contrast between how the president wants to keep growing this economy, keep unemployment going down and how mitt romney's policies would favor the wealthy over the middle class. yes i do think that this debate was very helpful. overall will it be as meaningful as one of the presidential debates? it's...
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oh, boy. >> more campaign news in a new poll found only 47% of voters find mitt romney to be trustworthy. then romney is like, i hope it's not the same 47% that i don't care about. >>> we're back with joe biden's big night setting the social media on fire. facebook claims that biden got 36% more mentions than ryan. and check out the top three rise in google searches. the top search was biden. next was the word focornflating and then the word malarkey. >> it's never been done before. >> it's been done a couple times. >> jack kennedy lowered -- >> oh, now you're jack kennedy? >> you're no jack kennedy moment, lloyd benson would be proud. meantime, twitter was ablazed with celebrity involvement. bill maher wrote, hello, 911, there's an old child beating on my tv. and post debate results just in. ryan now at 6% body fat, 94% water. the "politicsnation" facebook crowd was plugged in, too. marilynn said, thank god for joe's crisp vision he painted on behalf of the middle class. janet says her new favorite word is malarkey and roger was happy. the good old 47 was brought back to life. we want t
oh, boy. >> more campaign news in a new poll found only 47% of voters find mitt romney to be trustworthy. then romney is like, i hope it's not the same 47% that i don't care about. >>> we're back with joe biden's big night setting the social media on fire. facebook claims that biden got 36% more mentions than ryan. and check out the top three rise in google searches. the top search was biden. next was the word focornflating and then the word malarkey. >> it's never been...
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romney on foreign policy, four point advantage on mitt romney on handling terrorism. i do think the american people are paying very close attention to this issue. what they're seeing in, clear successes and seriousness from the president and just reflexsive, nonpolicy, sabre rattling bluster from romney and ryan. jamie: got to leave it there. thanks so much for weighing. ladies good to see you. >> thank you. bill: some of last night's most heated exchanges happening over medicare. >> here's the problem. they got caught with their hands in the cookie jar turning medicare into a piggybank for obamacare. bill: so is congressman ryan right on that? back in two minutes. victor! iot your campbell's chunky soup. mom? who's mom? i'm the giants mascot. eat up! new jammin jerk chicken soup has tasty pieces of chicken with rice and beans. you know the giants don't have a mascot right mom? [ male announcer ] campbell's chunky soup. it fills you up right. jamie: syndicated columnist charles krauthamer weighing in on the importance of last night's vp debate. here is what he had to
romney on foreign policy, four point advantage on mitt romney on handling terrorism. i do think the american people are paying very close attention to this issue. what they're seeing in, clear successes and seriousness from the president and just reflexsive, nonpolicy, sabre rattling bluster from romney and ryan. jamie: got to leave it there. thanks so much for weighing. ladies good to see you. >> thank you. bill: some of last night's most heated exchanges happening over medicare....
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has been gaining in the polls. he too delivered. >> i will be very specific. >> reporter: vice president joe biden wasted no time challenging congressman paul ryan's take on foreign policy. >> with all due respect, that's a bunch malarkey. >> and why is that so? >> not a single thing he said is accurate. >> reporter: the vice president and ryan clashed over the economy, taxes and medicare with the democrat often on the attack. >> and they're holding hostage the middle class tax cut. it's about time they take some responsibility. >> reporter: but ryan fired back. he slammed the obama administration's economic record. >> this is not what a real recovery looks like. we need real reforms for a real recovery and that's exactly what mitt romney and i are proposing. >> reporter: after several heated exchanges ryan insinuated that president obama's performance last week was motivating the vice president's >> mr. vice president, i know you're under a lot of duress to paining up for lost ground. >> reporter: as for who won,
has been gaining in the polls. he too delivered. >> i will be very specific. >> reporter: vice president joe biden wasted no time challenging congressman paul ryan's take on foreign policy. >> with all due respect, that's a bunch malarkey. >> and why is that so? >> not a single thing he said is accurate. >> reporter: the vice president and ryan clashed over the economy, taxes and medicare with the democrat often on the attack. >> and they're holding...
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it started off with the national polls have started to show mitt romney getting a bit of a bounce. mitt romney made some gains but president obama still with the slight advantage in ohio, that all pitch important state. tomorrow we'll see a lot of campaigning in ohio from the two republican candidates, so that's where they're headed and president obama is down, we assume doing debate prep before tuesday's debate. >> it's interesting. we had on former ohio governor ted strickland on yesterday. he was talking about why he believes the president is still ahead, even though he's seen the race close a bit. he still has a comfortable lead, at least it surprised governor strickland that it was still at the six point difference as opposed to the eight point. he does believe it's one of the topics that came up last night, domenico, the auto bailout. >> the obama campaign likes to say one in eight job are somehow tied to the auto industry. i checked that fact just in case it came up and talked to the center for automotive research and they said, yes, one in eight jobs are either directly rel
it started off with the national polls have started to show mitt romney getting a bit of a bounce. mitt romney made some gains but president obama still with the slight advantage in ohio, that all pitch important state. tomorrow we'll see a lot of campaigning in ohio from the two republican candidates, so that's where they're headed and president obama is down, we assume doing debate prep before tuesday's debate. >> it's interesting. we had on former ohio governor ted strickland on...
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. >> reporter: with the polls tightening, the president needs to fire up his base while mitt romney needs to convert 2008 obama voters. last night in kentucky, they got a lot of help from their running mates. rob, paula. back to you. >> thank you, karen. as karen alluded to -- polls are tight. dead heat in virginia. obama up one in florida. doing well in ohio up by six. in colorado, romney is ahead by a point now. virginia is still tight. obama is up by five there. wisconsin up by three. so it really is -- the country watches, but really about a cluster, maybe six, eight states will make or break this race. romney made up a lot of ground since last week's debate for sure. >> i don't know if this one will move the needle. both appealed to their base really. joe biden didn't make any fatal flaws. and neither did paul ryan in this one. but, you know let everybody spin it how they want. i looked at six different polls. three gave it to biden. three gave it to paul ryan. >> it's a draw essentially. >> pretty much is a draw. >> again, i know the media's inclination, folk's inclination to pay at
. >> reporter: with the polls tightening, the president needs to fire up his base while mitt romney needs to convert 2008 obama voters. last night in kentucky, they got a lot of help from their running mates. rob, paula. back to you. >> thank you, karen. as karen alluded to -- polls are tight. dead heat in virginia. obama up one in florida. doing well in ohio up by six. in colorado, romney is ahead by a point now. virginia is still tight. obama is up by five there. wisconsin up by...
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who will vote for governor romney and congressman ryan for doing so. this is a generalization and probably true with respect to the military. i don't know the outcome. my prediction that the supreme court will not hear this. you have the weekend in which to vote. you have saturday, monday and special tuesday. and the extra day gone. >> steve: you are gone, too. andrew napolitano thank you. you watch the yankees last night? >> brian: they lost and there will be a game tonight. >> unfortunatelyy lost two. >> gretchen: and that's how we end the segment. judge, how desperate is the obama campaign? mitt romney hates kids? you got to hear this. >> brian: italian captain arrested after leaving the passengers for dead. >> steve: he needs something to do. ♪ ♪ ♪ you got the music in you. ♪ ♪ nature valley trail mix bars are made with real ingredients you can see. like whole roaed nuts, chewy granola, and real fruit. nature valley trail mix bars. 100% natural. 100% delicious. [ chuckles ] ♪ [ honk! ] ♪ [ honk! ] ♪ [ honk! ] ♪ [ male announcer ]
who will vote for governor romney and congressman ryan for doing so. this is a generalization and probably true with respect to the military. i don't know the outcome. my prediction that the supreme court will not hear this. you have the weekend in which to vote. you have saturday, monday and special tuesday. and the extra day gone. >> steve: you are gone, too. andrew napolitano thank you. you watch the yankees last night? >> brian: they lost and there will be a game tonight....
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as the polls show, the rates -- the race has tightened. republican line, cathy. good morning. caller: i was also born at mercy hospital. my concern is about unemployment. i understand they are saying the rates have gone down. i was disappointed because from what i understand, the statistics for unemployment are based on the amount of unemployment checks that are issued and who are being traced, etc. how many people have had their unemployment run out. how the -- how are they being traced ask? i believe they are higher than what is being stated, the unemployment rates. i wish that came out tonight. i do not believe anyone is being traced in any way. they are left there to hang. >> nest is a viewer from greenbelt, maryland. democrat line. welcome to the conversation. caller: how are we doing today? >> fine, thank you. caller: my whole thing is biden put everything on the table. he expressed things he should not have expressed. >> thank you for the call. -- james is joining us on our independent line from south dakota. go ahead. are you with us? caller: i was calling about on- li
as the polls show, the rates -- the race has tightened. republican line, cathy. good morning. caller: i was also born at mercy hospital. my concern is about unemployment. i understand they are saying the rates have gone down. i was disappointed because from what i understand, the statistics for unemployment are based on the amount of unemployment checks that are issued and who are being traced, etc. how many people have had their unemployment run out. how the -- how are they being traced ask? i...
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that indicate a closing of the gender gap with mitt romney running better now in the polls anyway with women? >> i've seen different polls. i think polls are all over the map right now. i do this this is what women were needing to hear tonight. what are the differences on particular issues. i actually think what we'll see after this is, again, this gender gap that's been very strong in favor of the president. i think we'll continue to see it to grow. >> thanks for joining us tonight. >> good to see you. >> rachel, back to you. >> thank you, lawrence. there's been a snap poll in terms of results from tonight's debate. cbs news did a flash poll of uncommitted voters on who they think won tonight's debate. 19% of those voters said the debate was a tie. 31% say that paul ryan won. 50% say that vice president biden won. we're going to be joined in a moment -- we've talked to a couple of people who are functioning as surrogates for the obama campaign tonight. we're going to be speaking with a supporter of ryan and romney in just a moment, congresswoman marsha blackburn in a moment. while we
that indicate a closing of the gender gap with mitt romney running better now in the polls anyway with women? >> i've seen different polls. i think polls are all over the map right now. i do this this is what women were needing to hear tonight. what are the differences on particular issues. i actually think what we'll see after this is, again, this gender gap that's been very strong in favor of the president. i think we'll continue to see it to grow. >> thanks for joining us...
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. >> reporr: with the polls tightening, the president needs to fire up his democratic base, while romney need to convert 2008 obama voters. rob, paula, last night here in kentucky, both of them got a lot of help from their running mates. >> karen, can we say there was a winner? can we call it a draw? i was looking at several polls, three gave it to paul ryan. three gave the to joe biden. was there a winner? or was this a tie? >> yeah, paula those instant reactions were showing voters were evenly split. but i think if you have to pick who really got what they wanted to get out of this debate it was vice president biden. the democrats are very happy because he basically stopped the bleeding from last weak's, the president's performance at last week's debate. he did two things very well. one, he promoted the president's policies and defended the president's record and did it by connecting with voters. and, that's not something that president obama was able to do last week. he also cam out aggressively against the romney policies by going after paul ryan very strongly. that is also something
. >> reporr: with the polls tightening, the president needs to fire up his democratic base, while romney need to convert 2008 obama voters. rob, paula, last night here in kentucky, both of them got a lot of help from their running mates. >> karen, can we say there was a winner? can we call it a draw? i was looking at several polls, three gave it to paul ryan. three gave the to joe biden. was there a winner? or was this a tie? >> yeah, paula those instant reactions were showing...
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. >> reporter: back in cincinnati, a bakery is polling ohio voters with cookie sales. so far, it's obama in the lead. just four days until the president and mitt romney tangle again in their second debate on long island. live from cincinnati, steve hand elsman, news4. >>> when we come back this afternoon, a hidden camera investigation. what you need to know about chimney sweep scams. before you light up your fireplace this fall. >>> the actress who is front-runner to star in the new "fifty shades of grey" movie. >>> and movies opening this weekend. >>> doom and gloom is on sale. that's the title of the first new song in six years to be released by the rolling stopes. one of two new songs that will be on their new greatest hits album that goes out next month. they're celebrating their 50th anniversary this year. some music critics say the stones have gone back to their roots in the up-tempo blues track described as gritty, dirty, even swampy. there you go. >>>. ♪ i know my way around here ♪ the brooklyn duck >> barbra streisand went back to her brooklyn roots last n
. >> reporter: back in cincinnati, a bakery is polling ohio voters with cookie sales. so far, it's obama in the lead. just four days until the president and mitt romney tangle again in their second debate on long island. live from cincinnati, steve hand elsman, news4. >>> when we come back this afternoon, a hidden camera investigation. what you need to know about chimney sweep scams. before you light up your fireplace this fall. >>> the actress who is front-runner to...
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team romney is on a roll, is on a roll and the last week he's on a roll in the polls. that's why i'm saying ryan, he's got to be polite and respectful but on message and i believe economic growth and jobs, is the message. >> he has to have his youth. needs to let his youth take advantage of the full scope of what that energy can bring to the seat. >> there's youth and there's -- -- >> go to cnbc.com. the vice presidential debate is about to start. here's abc's martha raddatz. >> good evening and welcome to the first and only vice presidential debate of 2012 sponsored by the commission on presidential debates. i'm martha raddatz of abc news and i am honored to moderate this debate between two men who have dedicated much of their lives to public service. tonight's debate is divided between domestic and foreign policy issues and i'm going to move back and forth between foreign and domestic since that is what vice president or president would have to do. at the beginning of each segment i will ask both candidates a question and they will each have two minutes to answer. th
team romney is on a roll, is on a roll and the last week he's on a roll in the polls. that's why i'm saying ryan, he's got to be polite and respectful but on message and i believe economic growth and jobs, is the message. >> he has to have his youth. needs to let his youth take advantage of the full scope of what that energy can bring to the seat. >> there's youth and there's -- -- >> go to cnbc.com. the vice presidential debate is about to start. here's abc's martha raddatz....
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democrats are charging again that the romney/ryan math does not add up. joining me now, republican congressman michael burgess of texas. he's also a member of the tea party caucus. thanks for being with us. >> great. good to be with you, richard. thanks for having me on. >> you bet. defense spending, let's start with that. moderator martha raddatz pressed ryan on that. >> i want to know how you do the math and have this increase in defense spending? >> you don't cut defense by $1 trillion. that's what we are talking about. >> what national security issue justify an increase? >> we are going to cut 80,000 soldiers, 20,000 marines, 120 cargo planes. >> drawing down? >> don't cut the military by $1 trillion, not increase it by $1 million, don't cut it by $1 trillion. >> congressman burgess, what the democrats are saying romney would spend over $2 trillion more in defense than obama while at the same time, he's promising to balance the budget. how does that math add up? >> well, look, the first thing of course that has to be faced is january 2nd law signed by
democrats are charging again that the romney/ryan math does not add up. joining me now, republican congressman michael burgess of texas. he's also a member of the tea party caucus. thanks for being with us. >> great. good to be with you, richard. thanks for having me on. >> you bet. defense spending, let's start with that. moderator martha raddatz pressed ryan on that. >> i want to know how you do the math and have this increase in defense spending? >> you don't cut...
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, one of the things that governor romney had to do is reassure people about who they are. did he get that done? >> i think he did. starting tomorrow morning, going through the weekend into tuesday, and i think what republicans are going to drive is this question that biden opened up about what they knew and when they knew it with the attacks in benghazi. i think there was serious news that was made. rar th martha should clear her schedule. what she was able to do tonight, both men made some news and both of these men are frankly better at this than the men that they work for at the top of their ticket. but by being better, they said more and i feel like republicans feel like they have fresh ammunition on this growing scandal, which is how the right seeps the investigation into the attacks and the tragic death of our ambassador in libya. >> the vice president said, we didn't know about the security concerns in benghazi in particular, clearly state department officials did. >> well, the vice president also made it clear that he was going to let the facts talk for themselves.
, one of the things that governor romney had to do is reassure people about who they are. did he get that done? >> i think he did. starting tomorrow morning, going through the weekend into tuesday, and i think what republicans are going to drive is this question that biden opened up about what they knew and when they knew it with the attacks in benghazi. i think there was serious news that was made. rar th martha should clear her schedule. what she was able to do tonight, both men made...